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Saturday, 7 July 2012

"Independence Day"

Independence: The questions begin

 





Could and should Jersey declare independence from the British Isles?

It's a question being raised in the States next week following top-level comments reported in a national newspaper.

The Assistant Chief Minister Sir Philip Bailhache broached the issue of the island's relationship to the Crown in a Guardian newspaper interview last week when he said "the island should be ready to become independent if it were necessary."

Now that comment is being put centre stage in the States next week when politicians will quiz the Chief Minister about it.

Deputy Roy Le Herissier wants to know if Sir Philip's view is the official government view.

The Deputy for St Ouen James Reid wants to know if Sir Philip was speaking with permission of the Council of Ministers.

It's a sensitive issue.

So what's the party line? Was it a comment made with prior approval? And does it signal a change in Jersey's relationship with the Crown?

Expect answers in the coming days.

12 comments:

  1. JAW DROPPING !
    part 1 of 2

    Could this mad rush towards independence be a crass attempt to avoid being "detained at Her Majesties pleasure" ?

    Just read this by "boatyboy" at:
    http://planetjersey.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,212.msg55349.html#msg55349

    Thought it a good idea to reflect on the letter sent by Mr Mike Pollard who was chief Executive in charge of Health and Social and Children's ( protection included ) services when the Minister for health Stuart Syvret, when asked a question in the Government Assembly, about his concerns regarding the agencies responsible for child care. Stuart Syvret responded saying ( or words similar ) that he was unhappy and had no confidence in the child protection agencies. He was effectively removed from office.

    The letter below is the actual letter written to staff by Mr Mike Pollard, please read the articles below to show how well Jersey's Government has dealt with child protection. Mr Pollard resigned with a golden handshake after a poor report written by Verita about management failings at the General Hospital which is available on the Jer. Gov. website.

    I reproduce extracts of a letter from Mike Pollard that was sent to all staff on 14/9/2007. Remember the Serious case review covered this period. Let us apply hindsight....

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  2. JAW DROPPING !
    part2 of 2

    Our ref: JMP/LAW

    Dear Colleague

    Child Protection Services and our Children's Services More Generally

    On Wednesday last, I wrote to you following the dismissal of Senator Stuart Syvret as the Minister for Health and Social Services, which became effective the previous day.

    The Jersey Evening Post reported the dismissal and included in that report the following statement:

    'Members backed Chief Minister Frank Walker's move by a 35 to 15 margin, effectively deciding that his attacks on his own staff, other civil servants and politicians over the recent rows have been unjustified'.

    In addition to the investigations (referred to above) which Senator Syvret asked me to investigate, you will appreciate that the Chief Minister and the Chief Executive of the States of Jersey have also asked me to investigate some allegations which were brought to their attention. What I expected to find in undertaking all of this work was that the vast majority of such allegations were groundless and could be easily rebutted. To be perfectly honest though I did expect - because this is the way the world usually turns - to find that one or two instances had not been handled as they could have been. What I actually found, without exception, was that every instance and every matter I looked into had been dealt with to the highest possible standard.

    Never before in my 30 years of practice have I found a service that has got it so right, so well and so often to such a high standard

    I trust therefore that this letter has put beyond any scintilla of a doubt that the Child Protection and Children's Services operate to a very high standard and have an unblemished record.

    I will not take kindly to anyone who seeks to make mischief with these hard working staff on these matters...."

    Chief Executive Health and Social services Mike Pollard.

    Link.

    http://planetjersey.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2709.msg46498.html#msg46498
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    Lessons have been learnt. March 2010.
    http://www.thisisjersey.com/latest/2010/03/27/lessons-have-been-learnt/
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    A MAJOR review has been launched following the suicide of a young mother who was being monitored by several States agencies in the lead-up to her death.

    http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/04/13/did-the-system-fail-her/

    How bad does it have to get ?

    BB

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    "I will not take kindly to anyone who seeks to make mischief with these hard working staff on these matters...."
    what is that HR speak for ?

    Polard and Ogley were paid £600,000 odd (in our name!) for the "highest possible standard" of cover up - but they are so incompetent that they couldn't even do that right.

    Jersey has its proportion of Paedophiles and abusers, just like anywhere else
    The cover ups will ensure that it happens again and again. Remind me, which Bailiff did all this happen under ?
    And which newspaper etc failed to report ?

    The aforementioned bags of shit are coming apart at the seams while the fools desperately try to shovel more in by watering down (or cancelling!) the public enquiry into 50+ years of apparently establishment sanctioned child abuse.

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  3. "I will not take kindly to anyone who seeks to make mischief with these hard working staff on these matters...."
    Is HR speak for SHUT UP OR YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR JOB

    -and perhaps be unable to support your own family.
    (though we would be more than happy to take your kids into "care")

    Your taxes went into paying his "hush money"

    Were you a "Rohypnol voter" ?
    - There is no need to feel dirty, you were just one of 17,000

    JEPers ! - who spiked my evening paper ?

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  4. "A service that has got it so right, so well and so often to such a high standard." This could be carved over the doorway of the Ministry For Truth.

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  5. Email for Bailhahce! Independence Mr Bailhache, well give up your Sir then! you can't have your bread buttered on both sides, happy to take the title! this is very dangerous if the man who controls everything on the Island is now deciding upon himself that independence is the only way forward, Egypt had a revolution, it's time we did!

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    1. A point to note about the Bailhache honour is that the Jersey Establishment puts forward the people to receive honours.

      So in practise they actually bestow honours upon themselves.

      Along with immunity and favour, of course.

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  6. Gorst should be stomping Bailhache's guts out on this one, but Gorst had his spine ripped out about an hour after winning the C.M job....The general public are to afraid to act so we are kinda screwed at the minute :(

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    1. Yes they got Gorst's shock collar fitted pretty quick -what a disappointment.

      But cheer up Ian the "Rohypnol voters" are beginning to wake up from their 'mind managed' hangover and realise that aspects of the "big election" were forced upon them without their full knowledge or consent.
      Some remain in blissful ignorance but many realise that it is not the first time that their vote was prostituted by the best little whorehouse in St.Saviour.
      The JEP is a dieing medium.

      Coupled with this mad rush to force independence upon us there is the major concern of the authorities stage managing situations to achieve the introduction of Tasers on the island.

      http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2011/12/30/police-want-tasers/

      http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/04/24/taser-consultation-draws-more-than-400-public-responses/

      Normally I would be in favour of trained, responsible and ACCOUNTABLE police having additional tools to be safe and effective in their legitimate role.
      However thisisjersey you may find yourself "touching the void" with your next run in with the stazi
      (No disrespect to the good police of this Island)

      Perhaps Tasers could have been used to "re-educate" Ex-Senator Suvret during that (illegal?) dawn raid on his home/office ?

      Can you imagine the renewed swagger of the "my mate" Honorary with one of those in his pocket ?
      (He never had a bulge that big in his pants before :-p )

      Any recipient of Taser shock(s) may turn out to have an undiagnosed heart condition.
      Then what ?
      "Lessons have been leaned but we can't say if anyone will be held to account, time to move on"

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    2. Yes, I am fully expecting some shocking treatment in the not to distant future. In fact, it started yesterday with that idiot Haworth ringing me late at night and leaving me txt messages on my mobile!!!

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    3. "...ringing me late at night and leaving me txt messages on my mobile"

      It must be love ...


      The Beano is not the Rag

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  7. Our alignment with London is our last hope of protection from the Bailllache brothers and their yuppie coterie...if it goes we are at their mercy...it must STAY at any cost....

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